Drs Colin Shaw & Danny Longman interviewed on the Sausage of Science podcast!

We had a lot of fun with this one. Danny and Colin joined the Human Biology Association's Sausage of Science podcast for a good chinwag about our recently posed Environmental Mismatch Hypothesis.

Over the course of the chat, we got into why living in industrialised cities seems to be quietly messing with our biology, why time in nature does the opposite and why our bodies simply haven't caught up with the world we've built for ourselves. As ever with Sausage of Science, it's a relaxed, fairly irreverent listen rather than a dry seminar, so if you'd like to hear us explain our work while trying not to ramble, this is your chance.

You can listen to the full episode, "SoS 281: Industrialization and the Environmental Mismatch Hypothesis," here:

https://soundcloud.com/sausageofscience/sos-281-industrialization-and?si=3df4726c87114d4691bfd1113c97f855&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Many thanks to Sausage of Science co-hosts Professor Christopher Lynn and Dr Mecca Howe.

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